Look for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice
for all. Time everybody I'm glad to see you here and those who are watching
tonight's Council and I'd like to start tonight's meeting with the roll call.
Thank you. And the option of their agenda so moved second on
favor and I. Wonder or the communication number want to have
a few slips from different people Peter Stone or.
I. Will let you know what help.
Thank you very much you have three minutes. For communication three minutes three
to three minutes so yes of. Course Apollo. I only will
know when he'll know what I. Know. Excuse me would you mind if you speak in my
microphone please. And maybe one moment please the city clerk might be
able to provide the overhead so that we could all see because material we don't
have enough copies there. And well I guess. So
can you put this on over here I think is
a color over here on. We
would start here three minutes as soon as she's ready How about that. Yes
thank.
You.
I don't only. Small and thus rebelling and. They sure and the samurai
have new and recently the city has put double double lines or so no one can turn in
or out of this building and are about six mall were houses in that row and no one
could turn it around so I wanted to city hall over to the city engineer and they
gave me this. Picture of the color picture and they told
me to write
a letter to the city engineer which I did and that's the nut company there and the
city engineer kind of disagreed with me he said that that wasn't. Wasn't legal
before but I built
a building twenty nine years ago and we've always turn America real enhanced so now
with
a double double lines no truck can go in or out very well and the only way you can
come in from cell city you have to drive down to one county road make a U.
Turn and come back and if you want to go north you have to go to San Marino Avenue
and these are old and thus real buildings so that there are service by trucks so
you have to go up several happened with the truck. At through the residential area
past the school I come back to the old county road to go north and that I think is
not not
a good thing to go to the residential area so. My building right now is pretty
useless nobody can get in or out and the city engineer came up of
a proposal that could make a U.
Turn lane but it will only work for passenger cars not for trucks so we
need something more
a truck could get in or out. OK So that's my problem thank you
I will check to see if the staff could make. To give you an answer is there
something I have done sir or you're done yet thank you thank you very much for
coming. I think the best thing to do would be to just bring this back as
a response in a couple weeks be can hear you to. Bring it back in
a couple weeks as a response Thank you sir so if see if we can find
a solution you know. I'm not sure you can really you may have already looked at it
you know just problems. And if if I may if I'm
looking at the video you are intersection and I know that there's
a lot of trucks that use the buildings there if there is some way for the trucks to
utilize that intersection somehow go off and if there is a U.
Turn capability after making a right northbound into the V.W.
Our area in other words looking for solutions that may not be in the public right
of way on base or above are the only. OK thank you very much
Mr Schuyler for coming here. OK my next I.D.M.
Is from Denver Del ward.
You.
Letter start the timer to.
OK Thank you madam mayor council members last July
a resident of Brisbane was taking her grandson to Crocker Park to see frogs and she
came upon the city hired workers we were asking the environment to shreds and this
was something that was in Sam in two times the outcome of that experience has been
nearly a year of habitat restoration by
a dozen dedicated members of the public and we had help with the city as well many
volunteers traveled many miles I'm sorry I am watching you.
To help Brisbane be the jewel that it is the environmental jewel that we are the
work by amazingly dedicated folks has included remove all of invasive weeds and
planting areas that have gone bare on May twentieth much of our work was dashed by
a city employee weed whacker. This is the area.
In car park near Cypress lane. This is it
before and. This is an after.
The seat city needs to have better educated employees better weight control
policies and are sensitive habitat areas and we need an environmental study
immediately before everything is gone in the interest of wild land fire protection
we are killing everything around us the loss of trees residents report the loss of
hawks and other raptors. These are the animals in that
area the frogs. Loss of grasses equate to loss of butterflies.
This is actually San Francisco gum plant which is
a rare plant that when we started bringing the habitat back they started coming
back. The loss of shade and covers the loss of habitat to
snakes and reptiles. That's even though it's
a common garter snake it still requires happened. In relying on it.
Go for six so true. And then the little frog.
I talked with the county mosquito abatement person who said that we have done
a good job that we've created an environment that didn't need any mosquito
abatement so far we. Shouldn't fear keeping though
those wetlands wet and I'm speaking of the entire ring around Crocker Park goes up
west hill and down along the south and we should look for opportunities to improve
this habitat and
a sincere environmental policy to support it this is the third year of
a drought animals are suffering we cannot have the environment destroyed in the
meantime and I would appreciate the city appropriating funds to make
a better environmental protections which I'm saying that initially starts with the
study of our. Resources here thank you very much very much.
Appreciate that comment on. Far as what happened in what we're going to probably
start off and then Randy can probably embellish this
a little bit I think actually Dana's comments illustrate the problem that we've
been having and that is that we have
a contract with Mountain Watch Zambrano Matt March and Ken McIntyre is our point of
contact and that is the person who needs to be talking directly with Randy bro as I
understand all that Randy get into this in more detail is that they were working
out that this area was outside of the area that we had agreed to work with them in
and that was where the the potential conflict is this from the staff perspective
were more than willing to work with MT watch through Mr MacIntyre to identify
a larger area in which they could work and we've been provide we provide tools we
provide you know the management oversight of it and they can do do all the work and
they do have done a great job but it really needs
a communication directly from their organization to the appropriate person in our
organization which is our public works director but I'll let Randy respond be on
that. Well placed absolutely correct I mean philosophically we we have no
objections to to the type of activity to do groups to done out there and I think to
support the stewards comments I think the area that they have worked in where they
do have existing right of entry agreement with the city which is immediately south
of the building at one hundred Cypress it's a remnant of
a creek I think is the term we've agreed on and it's done
a fabulous job it's really quite a bit of
a nice habitat restoration for native plants and such is going on but unfortunately
what I think happened then I haven't chased this completely to ground is that it
appears that the very well meaning folks who were out there donating their time
extending their work outside of the area that was identified in the right of entry
they went you said would be west of Cyprus and I don't know whether that was
communicated same broom out and watching the same broom I watched him communicate
that to me so I couldn't communicate it down to my staff who. Communicated to the
contractors who do the we debate and so we had no idea that any work had been done
there and unfortunately when we debate went through is as all of the homeowners are
doing it just happened so I'm still waiting to have
a conversation and being with Mr MacIntyre So we can talk about how do we fix this
particular area are there other opportunities I think we've worked pretty
extensively with Canon
a couple of the other folks are identified on staff routinely and in email just
went out today we've got we became aware of another contractor working out by the
one hundred Cypress place so we sent an e-mail out to Mr McIntyre we send an e-mail
out to the to the individuals kind of the lead for the volunteers as James
Catherine McKissic fellow and we're happy to do that and by fact because we had
some cost savings I had asked the council a number of months ago to approve
a check and we sent Sam on watch
a check for some of their tools to acknowledge the fact that that I actually had
some labor cost savings as I don't have to have
a contractor so we're trying to work together and we just I think we just need to
fix the communication lines and I think sometimes folks well meaning working
outside there don't realize how challenging it is to manage an organization that
you know I mean just in my case has fourteen departments and that the information's
really got to come to me so that I can funnel it down and so that we can change
entry agreements and fix so we're not trying to be obstructionist where we're happy
to work with folks we just need to make sure the information comes back and the
people who are signed on to the agreements are in fact talking with each other.
Good it sounds like you're trying to come up with something maybe perhaps with
mountain watch maybe you can come up with some kind of identifiers that they work
with some of the folks that work outside of those boundaries I certainly support
you know. Habitat reconstruction in fact in fact can happen and sure and in fact
after hearing about this had already gone out and pricing on some six by twelve
inch Brown signs you could not and I would state that say habitat restoration and
progress please do not disturb so. You know we're more with it to and we don't if
people are taking the trouble in and they ever do this it's important value in the
community we don't want to see it destroyed either and I think on fourth. As we
debate Mary we had that happen it's there are one or two other areas where we had
a private party went out and thought they were doing some good on
a public facility and what they thought were weeds turned out to be native plants
that had been planted out there so that there's
a lot of information and education that goes on but like I said I'll try it with Mr
Macintyre and Will were appropriate will post some of the signs and that'll be so
they'll be
a good visual indicator to to all the parties involved that you know maybe you
should be just moaning through here quickly. Thank you sir thank you Dana thank you
for bringing this try tension because we get so busy but our own lives and we
really sometimes we might not notice the little creatures so I appreciate that
thank you thank you and
a spicy. Good
evening console city and visitors you did say thirty minutes and restrict it to
three minutes OK I'll make it quick in front of you hopefully you have
a water bill of mine which is for
a vacant house and it's what eighty four dollars and fifty nine cents what I wish
to bring up real quick when I bought my house here thirty years ago not knowing any
better my wife and I overpaid to Brisbane over to about two thousand dollars we
would have never known except for that my wife had met the neighbors and
a neighbor's were discussing the water went up for the sewer went up from fifteen
to twenty dollars and my wife's going twenty dollars each forty they got into an
argument so they all went House came out with their invoice or the bill whatever
you want to call it and we were paying double all those years to Graham two
thousand dollars roughly I would have never known it had the bill this is for Mr
Show and your half of the bill said it they were both me for duplex. And it simply
said duplex that first bill I would have nailed it instantly and gone down to city
hall and say hey we're not a duplex for a single family residence it was
a nightmare I had to get
a building inspector I was getting nowhere with the water department I finally said
I want to talk to the boss I was told the boss is tough you don't want to meet him
her rather She's an attorney and I basically said I don't care if it's God I want
to talk to the boss it turned out to be Robin Leiter who was very professional very
understanding my wife had the proof that we'd been overpaid it was
a human error somewhere maybe when the city went to computers that had I my wife
never talked to the neighbors I'd still be paying double I called
a single mother schoolteacher that I bought the house from she had been paid for
who knows how long so had is simply said if I'm paying for an apartment house an
industrial park hotel
a motel it would have been nailed instantly I don't know and so the city still not
doing it I suggest they should when I was in business and I sent you an invoice it
was down to every single item you were getting billed for. So for what that's worth
. I think you should state on the invoice what we are paying for and it turned
out to make
a long story short after bickering back and forth and so forth with the water
department Robin was very fine we sat down we can to an agreement basically we
agreed the city owed me the money plus interest over all those years and I said I'm
a fair man I said I'll tell you what Robin you don't send me another bill until
it's neutral ice and we'll forget the interest and that's what we did so I didn't
get a bill to write on how long but I think it's a valid point there could be
a lot of little old ladies and men here you don't know what
a bill is all you know is you get
a bill from the city where there be garbage water whatever you pay it how else
would you why would you compare it. Now leading into that you know I'm almost
through is the garbage cheaters in this town the leeches on the garbage to day
coming home I stopped for
a pedestrian crossing the street to throw garbage into his neighbor's garbage can
this is been going on for years Michael barns I brought it up to probably three
years ago Mike you were mare I brought it up to you I ran into you it came our with
your son we discussed it you would talk to Barbara Bernardine at the scavengers I
waited an appropriate time I called Barbara burn her D.D.
Who I know and she said she can't do
a thing about it it has to come from the city I assumed wrongly that you and the
scavengers carried the ball and nailed these people that for years for years for
years have been not even having garbage cans obviously not paying for it and
putting it in the neighbors or the city garbage cans something's got to be done the
computers can talk to each other the scavengers can print out bam
a list whoever we give a water bill to a P.G. And E.
Bill it can be cross referenced that computers can talk to each other it's easy to
set it up I was in business the computers can do it or have them print out
a list we print out
a list and I'll double cross reference but it's got to get stopped when I you know
Joanne is one Sambro She's ninety eight years old the Catholic Church I didn't know
it was re my doorbell it was
a sister from the church and she said Dennis I understand you like to help people
and I said yes if I can be happy to physical mental whatever they said could you go
down the street and take Johannes garbage which I did and I asked you no I don't
want to alarm this lady who is this person coming into the yard when I went to the
our defense was ready to fall off the gate I know carpenter I mentioned it to
a few people through the church they got
a contractor to fix the gate. And it made me realize here's
a ninety eight year old woman widowed paid for garbage I've seen her sweep the
street I stop want to help or as you say no no no dentist No no I can do it I can
do it and we've got freeloaders in this town I can't mention any names I would love
to mention names and addresses and I'm requesting that you stop the treaty I am
also requesting you penalize them because they know better and if you want to go
far enough if the police chiefs here Mr Hitchcock get prison stripes throw on him
and have him sweep our streets so they put them on
a bulletin board on the hair pin turn but they should be nailed if I were younger
and gave me permission I'd nail so so good Mr Mr I see when you tell me
summarize because I'm getting distracted all the lovely you have all the way lovely
stories that here showcase what I want to make it I like this and here are three
years but I'll finish it by saying that I've talked to Daly City we don't have an
anonymous phone number there's no one to call anonymously like you know catch the
bad guys you call the cops I think we should have an anonymous number and
a contact number so that's it I hope somebody here hopefully you Maire will follow
through on it thank you for and publishing the names of the objects so we can walk
on the street OK thank you thank you very much. Mr MILLER.
Everybody. No props. I just been working really hard clearing brush and stuff
around my house and and so you would you give your name full name for the record
I'm sorry is Roy Mahler with three thirty eight King's Road and where the neighbors
got this like one hundred one hundred fifty foot eucalyptus tree and you know I
know of if it if that thing catches fire it doesn't matter what I've done so I know
you guys are trying to reduce the fire hazards and that's one of them and I hope
you can take
a look at it and maybe help get rid of it. Thank you very much Mr Merrick you
shared your visit Thanks. We.
Thank you I work with staff thank you very much. OK Terry
O'Connell.
It evening Terry O'Connell Brisbane resident. With the withdrawal of application
for three twenty five alley drive I asked the council to require revisit the
request made by the citizens of Brisbane to enact an immediate moratorium on
freight forwarding. While we seek an ordinance to limit the percentage of freight
forwarding in Crocker Park to ten percent and eliminating it altogether as an
option for any future development in the quarry I am requesting you and gender wise
the moratorium request for the next city council meeting and thank you very much
thank you very much Terry. I would work with the staff. Thank you.
I believe there is somebody else instead wanted to make comment where you are being
at me he wanted to make comment one two OK.
QUESTION OK. If they actually withdraw their application or is it just about exams
and going ahead your name Robert Robert Howard sorry.
Would you please ask all the questions that you want to ask and Rick you know the
question is this is it just that they're not going ahead with the Fed Ex to vomit
or has the application been withdrawn does that mean in future if
the come back with combat and want to do something there though have to go through
the whole process again. Or not I understand they're afraid forwarders relax
only five X.
Totally rejoined application and they're going to stay where they are yes but
that's what I understand but the permission that was given them by the Planning
Commission that no one void now I'm going to refer to their secure tourney to
respond to this. Well I apologize I don't know the details of this application of
blues but it was maybe. Planning Director death thanks for the chair they
made a letter. Backing up
a telephone conversation that they had with staff indicating that Fed Ex had made
the decision to stay where they were. And that means that application is and
effectively. Gone withdrawn it was contingent upon Fed
Ex being the client that was the primary change from the previous sample cation in
which the council said they could resubmit on the circumstances that represented
a changed application however once Fed Ex pulled out. It essentially
pulled the plug out of the new application and so it's effectively withdrawn so.
And the second question so if anybody else comes they have to go through the whole
process correct have to start the process new projects. So.
Let's quick if it's
a method to use then they don't write well at the end of the words if somebody
really occupies the existing building there's no review process for that
essentially unless it was a freight forwarder So it was
a for somebody to me and again as a friend or it requires a C.V.
Of you know OK When when did this happen. It
happened. To. See what happened
a week ago Friday. And I apologize I was going to. Remember to
I was on my way on
a vacation last week. Just after I heard the news and I
forgot to distribute an e-mail citywide so I did inform the city manager I thought
we did receive some emails and that's how I found out about you. The clerk tells me
it was put in your box but
a letter from the applicant and council OK. OK
thank you very much is there anybody else that would like to make comments and to
pump it come yes please.
I'm mayor and council members. Recently I was house sitting for someone on one of
the very narrow streets in Brisbane and unfortunately got stuck behind the garbage
truck and I'm sure there's quite
a few people that have had that experience. But the main thing that I noticed was
the driver had to get out at every house and reposition those bins before he could
grab them and throw up every house so maybe something could go out in the water
bill or something that could educate and inform the people on where to place those
bin and it takes over twice as long for that truck because he has to get out every
House thank you very much maybe that could be something and be quick put in our
block Carola if those bins are working yeah. I'm sorry
can you. So we're done with that OK I'm going to recognize one more to
follow up and then we have to restart with the rest of it and if you don't mind us
please. Matter Mary you just said something that hits home to me
I don't live by going online or to the blog that you still have
a ton of seniors in his town or even if I were young I wouldn't be computer
literate but they put me out of business I hate them but any rate I think you
should put stuff in writing if for nothing else I talked to our chief fire chief
today in fact about notifying the seniors of
a secondary emergency location case fire with her and I shall but at any rate but
still keep saying it will be online it'll be on a blog or
a police blotter police blotter should be in print so for what that's worth Thank
You The older I get the more I agree with you Dennis thank you. OK
Somebody out there one more follow up please please OK Thank you.
I'm sorry you need so sorry microphone Robert Howard has been arisen. Because it
sounds silly garbage whatever they call themselves they have to fleets of trucks up
it all to more the use much smaller trucks of the garage was there I was wondering
if the city might be able to get them to use those in some other routes Well you
know where they were see where I'm Tom seeing problems where the streets are really
narrow. OK thank you very much for your suggestion when we're looking at this
placement of the truck cans and so for to see if we can look at that thank you very
much OK with that if you don't mind I like to start. Consent Calendar like you.
And the like to move items. And I would give you a motion to prove items even the F.
Second. I I demand is that the council minutes from
a third I had the city clerk put together some changes that should be before you
throw stones on page three and he was
a typo just said current members and it should have said current memberships on
page five the third paragraph. Has been revised as
a council member Barnes noted that grant funds were acquired by city engineers were
used to construct among other things the five hundred thousand dollars bike lane
along Bay Shore and he advocated retaining engineers to look for external funding
sources for other items during that meeting I was making the point that engineers
have acquired grant funds that more than cover their salaries because it was
a budget discussion about the value of maintaining
a city engineering department or the number of engineers that department and Page
Six The change it reads now council member bar and said he was impressed that the
developers are still pursuing the I.R.
At the same pace with no signs of slowing down this was to respond to the
comment that questioned whether the bailouts will be developed as planned given the
earth current economic downturn. So with that I will give you
a motion to approve the amended minutes of May third two thousand and nine second
round in favor. And B.
That is the counsel in the minutes of May fourth just one change and this has to
do with playground equipment there was
a. Statement made by the recreation director skills that reported
a number of parents have been have complained about splinters from the old wooden
play structure and that other components are beginning to age. I express that my AS
When my son received splinters from the play structure I considered it
a valuable learning opportunity for my son and the next paragraph it said there was
a word left out of that paragraph instead of saying cut back it just said back so
we've inserted the word cut and if there know there are changes to those minutes
I'll give you
a motion to approve the amended minutes of May fourth two thousand and nine second
in favor. And MC on item C.
It is. A famous resolution and we argued about last time if you turn to the
second page of the resolution the first Be it further resolved clause.
In the second sentence the word v should go out so it reads opposes any state
government proposals. And then in the end of the third line being the fourth line
the words public safety should either go out or there should be another word
inserted since we're talking about property tax development tax increment and the
city's share of transportation sales tax public safety
just doesn't fit with those changes or give emotion to prove I
can act. Right I'd like to thank staff for working this resolution that
thank you share. And I have visas to prove the proposed
planting plan for a fire station eighty one and authorize
a supplemental appropriation of four thousand dollars and the general fund I like
the planting plan I just didn't want to vote yes on this at this time considering
our budget constraints I agree with that and think that we should table it till our
budgetary. Issues get better you get three votes.
Oh we're booked unanimous OK Thank you. That's OK it was.
No. Bad. Is now going to go against that.
I can't make I damn in the agenda is and
a public hearing to talk about weed and flammable waste debate meant.
Staff. Overhearing well.
All I have to know it's open it up looked after it for.
On
a bill mayor and council members this is about the we debate an. Ordinance that you
adopted in April. To go over the timeline. We sent out an informational
packet in April. Addressing all the the debate in process and
also requirements. And May fourth we had an inspector go out and inspect all lots
of residential commercial properties. By me for three we created
a database of all the properties first notices were sent out to all tax holder
properties. And today is June first for the public here and if anybody opposes or
has any questions about this we debate. I
think that OK So I'm I'm just waiting for you and you to if you're done with your
presentation I'm done and from there we'll go on thank you very much thank you is
that a question yes one I'm. Eucalyptus trees aren't considered
a weed. No this is low lying grass and bushes you know those are those are
higher and taller amounts of fuel which are not as dangerous or for firefighting
reasons as not as. I guess is for OSHA says you know we'd sit and brush
so we have time with bigger timbers and lumber to deal with it but even though on
some of the programs we do live in the trees down so it doesn't travel up and
ladder up the the trees it's unfortunate that. Eucalyptus is not
part of that that they serve their purpose and they do thank you OK if you can so
that I have any question and I would to ask if it was just
a quick comment. While we were making the public clean up their
yards maybe we should soon somebody behind he goes and clean up that whole lot
of grass over there is waist high and that is so you property. And I was to set
an example I can talk to the city engineer about that and take
a look at it just one thing to take in regards to all this too we do have
a cheap here is that we have to censor effect you know areas that we have to abide
by to. So. You know now
Fred. OK I do hear yes please sir can you for come forward and just mention your
name. Opening public hearing and. I'd like to open the public hearing.
I my name's Andrew Adams and. I do
handyman work around town and so I'll contact made to clean the weeds on the
property at seventy five hundred square feet and it has been cleaned and probably
about twenty years since there but what I needed to know from Mr Markley who's
gonna make Asian and can answer the questions that I have for the about the
property is Are Black Berries considered
a fire hazard or would you ask your question then I would have this and I'd like to
know what every If there is a part is of is there
a list of plants that I can go by because there is everything there is not there is
no virtually no weeds it's brush or else I was flyable some of the dollars last to
be removed but it's big and it's that and I'd like to know if there's any will
definitely curious things and have to be done madam mayor might I suggest that I
believe the fire service can come out actually and talk to those who told me to
interrupt you but I'm more than happy to meet with you on the side or tonight and
discuss that with you it's in the we debate notice what they consider well you know
flammable weeds OK thank you thank you very much appreciate the work you do to
keep his bank clean We appreciate that thank you OK I saw somebody else and I
meant corner one two three no more OK motion to close public hearing.
On in favor. Council. I guess we're
supposed to give direction to the Air Force but officer to clear the properties
that have not complied with the notice them. And when would that commence.
That as of now just we have about ninety I counted ninety nine that were given
first notices now I believe with all the phone calls are perceived most of the
subjects are very interested in cleaning and clear and there are there are lots I
think once we start on June ninth that week of ninth we'll see that most of all be
compliant. I'm just going to guess at
a figure of ten to fifteen probably that will have to you know possibly that was
with the figure from last year that were non-compliant you give
a second notice yes we do second inspections it's the first notice but then we do
a second inspection of the first notice so and they still have time to do it so
you know if they have any questions or anybody wants to call me to meet and go over
it I'm happy to do that. And your phone number your contact information as it is
available in the mailing that sent out it's all on there yes or eight maybe you
want to give it anyway it is for those who want to hear it sure.
I just give you my office number six five zero nine nine one one three eight and
that's fire marshal. Thank you very much and the other number that you want to call
is four six eight seven one nine zero which is the local number here in birthday
thank you thank you very much thank you and just that I move we give direction to
the enforcement officer to clear the properties that have not complied with the
notice. I guess the schedule being some. Night.
Going. On in favor I thank you.
Next diadem new business solid base waste collection and recycling sites San
Francisco scavenger company.
Madam Mayor and members of the council the franchise agreement with the South San
Francisco scavenger company provides for
a mechanism for an annual rate adjustment that adjustment is generally to adjust
the rates by eighty percent of any change in the C.P.I.
However every third year the agreement provides that a survey be done of
a basket as as you will of thirty two different jurisdiction
garbage rates in thirty two jurisdictions in the Bay Area that are listed in the
franchise agreement two thousand and nine is the survey it was one of the surveyors
in the franchise agreement. So March thirty first of this year person to
the franchise agreement the scavenger company submitted. A rate survey and
a rate increase request. The survey was reviewed by staff for
accuracy and the scavengers on May sixth met with the city council sold to
a subcommittee to review the proposed rate increase. Unfortunately
costs region wide in this industry or increasing. At
a fairly rapid rate and so the result of the survey is that under the formula.
Call the survey call for
a rate increase of fifteen point nine percent for residential container rates
fourteen point four five percent for commercial container rates one thousand
percent for the compact and yardage rates eight point four for the debris box and
thirteen point one percent thirteen point three one percent for the front loader
been rates and those are the five benchmark rates that are surveyed and the rates
for other services are extrapolated off of those benchmark rates for. A concern was
expressed that this in this economy the double digit rate increases would pose
a significant hardship to rate payers in the community. And so the scavenger
company agreed to spread those rate increases out over. Two or three years with the
exception of the eight point four percent for the debris box rate which would be.
Put is proposed to be implemented in two thousand and nine so. The subcommittee and
the scavenger company. Agreed on the following rate schedule
for residential can rates in two thousand and nine increase of seven percent four
percent of the rate increase to be deferred to two thousand and ten and of the four
percent would be deferred to two thousand and eleven. The two thousand and ten two
thousand and eleven rates would be in addition to the whatever. Eighty percent of
this change in the C.P.I.
Would occur during those two years the commercial cannery would be spread out over
two years so you would have eight point four four percent for two thousand and nine
and four point zero one percent for two thousand and ten. Two thousand and ten
would be indifferent to whatever C.P.I.
Adjustment would be in effect in that year and then two thousand and eleven would
be just the C.P.I.
Adjustment. To yard been. The same general
formula to
a point four four percent four point seven percent the Reeboks eight point four
four percent in two thousand and ten two thousand and eleven would just be the
C.P.I.
Increase and then compact yardage would be similar eight point four percent for two
thousand and nine. And the increment that is ten percent the requesting that that
be levied in two thousand and ten however if the increase in the C.P.I.
Is turns out to be significant they would be willing to split that and ever said
zero out over. It To The following year. So bottom line is for all
a least on the residential rates the average increase for the typical thirty two
gallon residential can service would be an increase of
a dollar twenty eight per month. For residential rate payer. Happy to answer any
questions Paul for most with this L.C.D.
Scavenger companies here he can also answer any questions that you may have. Thank
you very much. Of course it's mine and I'm going to ask Stuart. Can you
explain what C.P.I.
Stands for and what it means. U.P.I.
Is the consumer price index and it is the average increase of
a whole basket of different goods over a period over usually over a period of
a year or
a period of three years or whatever time period that they used for and that the
goods are the. Every day types of things that people buy
there's you know there is energy there is transportation costs there is food there
is housing all included in the C.P.I. . This is C.P.I.
Ever go negative. It is rare but it does that's called deflation which is one of
the big concerns right now of the current recession that people will hold off
buying thinking that prices will go down in the future which could then create
a deflationary period so if the C.B.I.
Goes negative it could mean the rates go down and. Yes in the in the
franchise agreement it's eighty percent of the change in the C.P.I.
Or that change is positive or negative so if you had a negative change in the C.P.I.
Even the rates would have to be just
a dumb or. What I'm saying. Are
you don't you know Michael so as part of the subcommittee I recall that we had the
last time they came to us for rate increases they deferred part of that rate
increase and. I believe that's being made up for now is that right.
Last time the survey indicated I think
a seventeen percent. Increase for the residential rates of the scavengers agreed to
reduce that request to only ten percent and that ten percent was spread out over
two years but the effect of that is that that seven had seven percent plus that was
given up or was foregone in that last cycle three years ago is still imbedded
because that came from the survey of the thirty two other cities that amount is
kind of still embedded in the underlying rates that get surveyed So as those rates
increase that that's where that baseline still goes up so part of this year's
increase really is that seven percent that got to for three years ago so I just
want to make that clear to everybody that three years ago they were entitled to
that additional seven percent that they they deferred that they did not raise the
rates that seven percent and and that went on for three years consumers or Brisbane
got
a seven percent break basically for three years and although we are raising rates
tonight this rate increase now will kind of include that deferred increase from the
previous. Contract. Defined in the
formula increase it's quite in the French as
a premium that's correct so I just I don't didn't see that in the staff or just one
make sure I was aware of that. So for diminish Dennis's cheaters
right seven percent and the thing is. So the way the rates are
calculated what a very big base is they take that Monta played out by the C.P.I.
Factor yes if you say that if the C.P.I.
Increase by five percent we just don't know what it depends on recent years it's
been two percent three percent I think in the past year it's I think almost zero.
But if for example it was if it was
a five percent since the increase is only eighty percent of the change in C.P.I.
You get they would get
a four percent increase so that that goes for you that happens every year for two
years and then this new survey is done every third year thank of the other cities
and I'll play it Michael I did have one question for Mr Formosa if I life
yes. But if you tell me
about this in your smaller garbage trucks I yes I can tell you some things about it
. That the truck that's being referred to was purchased specifically for that
development and the reason for it was that it's lower and I can get into
a tighter spot. I'm afraid I'm not the truck I.
Thought I'd give her some information on that could you give us your name oh I'm
sorry Paul from us on the C.F.O.
Francis I'm just discovered your company. The as I recall the truck was purchased
specifically for that development do that can the space constraints and I think it
had to do with the garages that had to be lowered to get in to where the cans were
. And as
a much smaller truck it's not any narrower I don't think. But it is lower but I
could get more information on that. OK thank you Cher Well we had you here of
course walk us while you're here of course. What kind of feedback you get from the
driver. Somebody made
a comment earlier that they're not working up in the hills too well as far as the
driver having to get out and straighten things out what kind of feedback you get
from your driver in regards to that. And that's an interesting question we have.
How can I put this. The cans are difficult to place in Brisbane they are because
the streets are narrow obviously there aren't sidewalks
a lot of sections of town. And the truck. The truck needs
a little bit of room to grab them. And there's
a lot of cars parked on the street all of these types of things require the driver
to get out to move the cans around so frequently so they hasn't had
a parked car or something like that we don't want that to happen. Although I think
the cans do work pretty well if they. I'm sure there are areas of town where has to
get out more often than other parts of town. Ask for feedback from the drivers we
don't hear much from the drivers about it they're used to it now there probably is
a good we have been discussing recently about sending out the information about how
to place the cans for the most efficient collection but most people will do that if
they can if there's room at the curb at the time. There is.
There's still an efficiency to it even if he does have to get out because with the
old style truck she'd have two guys and they both have to get out so. It's still is
more efficient than a rear loader type of
a vehicle even though he does have to stop frequently and reposition the cans.
Because one person versus two Yes exactly. So
it that there are parts of town and same thing happens and really any city that
uses them there's always sections where there's
a lot of parked cars particularly That's the biggest. I am pediment I guess you
could say so do citizens have an option. Going to
a traditional canned if that's really not working for them. They have any option I
guess. They have an option of different sizes of cans but the that they can itself
the truck the truck they were using would not can't grip an old style garbage can
the the ones that we use have a kind of
a ridge around them and the gripper grips underneath that and that's what holds
a can of places it goes up in the air so I'm afraid that option is is not there OK
yes. What do we do it the ridge with the small truck. They they have to bring the
can to the truck and the truck has that that's more of a traditional type of or or
a load or it has
a flipper on the back and they bring the. At least I think they're picking up
garbage cans or they might be picking up the one yard bins I'm not sure which by
the Basically they hook on to the back of the truck and they flip into the harbor
those are traditional style cans another there is same kind of cancer you know.
Dumpster dumpsters Yes. I do have
a comment if you don't mind about what Mr Boosey at this I see but I see so I'm
sorry we we have heard complaints of that type of people putting garbage and cans
are not theirs and we have started on
a program to try and and work with that to notify people. That he might like
that to notify people that they are required to have service and we have been
sending out letters and so forth we've just started actually in Brisbane I may not
have well but this way it's in the planning may not have happened yet but it's
going to happen soon might want to work with staff on that because chances are they
had ignored if it came from you oh yeah well. Yeah we will if it comes to that
we have started this and I want Cisco and learned
a few things along the way so I should go some other you know when my wife got
somebody putting their trash in our trash can
a couple weeks ago she just took it back to his house.
And my my trash gets well all the time not from me I noticed that it's food but I
don't know where it's coming from. Yes and thank you very much thank you I must
thank you I have that let me see if there is any more Council comment and none OK
Mr Busey would you like to have your three minutes. Know thirty thirty
seconds there is thank you Mr Formosa here
a blessing you won't get any street fights now he's safe in this I'm hoping I don't
repent Mr Frum also but what I'd like to know and I asked this question ten years
ago Mr Smith answered it I wanted to know were right middle to garbage scavenger
couple why aren't we getting competitive bits I worked our Ace Hardware store part
time for years and they're big customers of the hardware store the personnel that
work at the scavengers great people but why aren't we getting competitive bids are
we locked into some kind of
a law county to county and I'm just curious and remember just I Mr Smith said if
they have
a long contract twenty years or whatever if so how much time is left on their
existing contract and why can't we get competitive bids just in economics of fuel
it's going to be closer but I'm going forth and. So because it's in our backyard or
front yard however you want to look at it so anyway and what I would add worth I
think we should have competitive bids especially in today's world and take it Mr
From also thank you very much Frank would you like to respond to my question will
the franchise agreement was adopted in its.
Turn cell phones off police. There were calls me I think in one of their meeting
they took to cellular and they threw it away. The franchise agreement
was adopted in one thousand nine hundred nine and it's
a fifteen year term so the green light will expire in two thousand and fourteen. At
the time the city could choose to have the green mint bitter renegotiate an
extension with the island serious. Two thousand fourteen
I'm OK Thank you very much enjoyed meeting you may leave and whisper answer your
question and that's only my wife sourly. I hope she's not watching.
OK you know things thank you yes please.
There are council members very Miller this is just. A suggestion that seems like
the right time to raise it and that is the problem of electronic waste. It seems to
me that the system we have now is fairly calm some and expensive. And it would
seem to me that the council would try to negotiate something to improve that
situation I think even to dispose of a T.V.
Monitor cost
a minimum of fifteen dollars and you have to take it to the transportation if I'm
correct about that. If there's something different in that regard I would like to
know about it but it seemed to me the reason it came to mind is that you know with
the switched all digital coming up soon it was going to be
a lot of old T.V.'s around that you know going to be waste that people want to and
yet you know there are toxic materials on those T.V.'s and we want to encourage him
to be properly recycled not just dumped somewhere I don't know that we have
a system to deal with that and if I'm right about that then I would hope you would
consider doing so thank you thank you I believe I see Mr Formosa.
Shaking head to answer. Leave the room whichever way but I also thought there was
a free free drop off just this last week as well here in Brisbane. Is that right I
. Think there are periodic Lee or you know free you waste collection events that
take place in the area I thought there was one here there's
a business in Brisbane that recycles the refurbished as computers I thought and
they may have sponsored that last week it was I think on
a Friday I don't know those are not organized by the city didn't or the scavenger
company but you're right I think there are private companies that do pick stuff for
free even county does have sometimes programs for dropoff Cydia Redwood City I know
they do things of that sort but before and throwing
a lot of answers would you like to when you have all the answers that's very good.
Yes there are frequently free drop off type events that are.
Perhaps not as well publicized as they could be there and they're not organized by
us and not organized by the city for those who can't who would prefer. The
convenience of having us pick it up we do pick it up although we do charge and so
we can go to people's houses and pick those items up although there is an extra
charge as what is the charge while you know I think I believe a T.V.
Is about fifteen dollars for your average T.V.
. I'm not sure about computers and so forth maybe five to ten
dollars something like that but people can call or office and get those charges.
Yes Yeah no wonder because sometimes right in the parking lot of Midtown market
there are people that just keep throwing their T.V.'s and computer monitors and I
reached over some made that you know there are
a lot of options these days we are fortunate
a few years ago five years ago you can say that but there are
a lot of options these days. Thank you very much thank you OK Mr Purcey one follow
up. Rate was. My favorite T.V.
Ten years old I love that it died about two weeks ago I took it to
a place that paid me three dollars and fifty eight cents I was asked how much for
me to dump it that they pay you put her on a scale it's
a brand new business it's on the corner. It's on the north west corner
spruce and thank you sir. Now it's
a brand new business talk to the owners and you can bring in there were people
bringing in washing machines and dryers all assembled they put on
a big scale they weigh it they take
a driver's license in my case and scan it OK Sure
a bad guy you know you can rip it off the neighbor's copper pipe and also you're
not only the paid for your refuge it's
a great industry I can think of the name of it somebody could stop there get
a car put it in your printed piece people of Brisbane not on or off the sidelines
but if you need call me realize I can tell you more maybe you can give the
information to the staff or. What we can put it up on the blog.
Yes So. You have another three people you know I
just
a couple comments on some recent conversation. I
think I will end up behind those trucks all the time and one other observation that
I've made is
a lot of that garbage doesn't make it into the truck and it ends up on the street
and. Quite numerous occasions I've observed this. The
Second Coming is. My recollection in the old. Previous
collection the truck was practically in constant motion down the street and there
were two people grabbing the bins and dumping them into the back and they just
walked from house to house keeping up with the truck I don't think the truck ever
stopped to through an intersection thank you thank you very much things do change
don't Day OK let's go. If there are no I'm there time to comment so
I like to continue with the rest of them tender Well I'd like to approve the
proposed rate increase you could leave yourself. I'm sorry Mr.
I thought you need to move. All in favor. So they're breaking thank you
very much I miss it apart from more so for wanting to stretch just they impact on
people and we appreciate that you could ask one more question just to follow up on
Mr Hines is QUESTION Do you ever do sampling of. O.
Like following your trucks and see what kind of job they actually do get complaints
from neighbors in regards to trash falling out. When we get a come if we hear of
a driver spilling. The garbage during the course of his route. They have shovels
and brooms are supposed to clean that up if they don't then we do have
a route supervisor goes up and checks with the driver and make sure that he does
and that is not something we hear commonly but when we do here we do take care of
it we will go out and sweep up the street and as for checking on the driver
frequently Yes we have route supervisor who who responds to complaints as well as
serve Tisha slee observes the drivers on their routes as
a good thank you Kit and if and if you if we do have. Anyone like to call us we're
six five zero five eight nine four zero two zero Let us know OK. OK.
OK thank you thank you very much for everybody that and I'd
like to go to the next i damn and new business sorry I don't.
Be housing element of the general fund.
Thank you hon members of the Council. I'd like to apologize that its
presentation is
a little lengthy and it's probably one of the thicker packets that you've received
recently but then the housing element is
a. Complex subject prior to getting to the housing moment though the gender
includes. Updating you on the status of the general plan and in the
process of considering
a general plan that looks twenty five years into the future I felt obligated.
Almost obsessed. With finding out the best information for you that I could find
and that's what this presentation represents.
The purpose of the presentation is really to try to persuade citizens and leaders
in Brisbane to have that to avoid the most serious consequences from global warming
will require reconsideration of some core values about growth sharing going to
depend on their screens please I'm sorry Bill. Thing.
Thank you. But.
These specific topics I'd like to talk about in this part of the presentation is
the necessity of
a climate stabilization federal state local government response to climate change
what is
a sustainable general plan and then get to the housing element. In the course of
developing the general plan update all way back when we started with the SAY IT
AGAIN day or have your say day in two thousand and three thousand and four. We did
a lot of talk about community visioning and at that time the. Feeling of the
community was that it was paramount to retain the small town character preserve
open space and sure that develop and be sustainable. That same time I was still
a fairly new kid on the block in Brisbane and I was looking at the future it's
visions I'm globalization's biotech nanotech green tech robotics all those things
that are talked to talked about by authors like Alvin Toffler and going all the way
back to. One thousand nine hundred ninety S. One nine hundred seventy S.
To who and visions which is about the blending of the sciences in the
area of robotics and biologic computers and so forth more recently though because
of global warming I'd be cam more concerned with the scientists vision of the
future next twenty five years. This is from the front
a front page article San Francisco Chronicle and may be March twelfth of this year
global warning rising ocean level threatens
a half million people study says this was
a Pacific Institute study that was. Involved three state agencies
that asked for the preparation of this and it estimated that four hundred eighty
thousand people in
a wide range of critical infrastructure as well as areas of wetlands one hundred
billion dollars in property along the California coast coastal areas are are at
increased risk from flooding by
a one point four meter separate sea level rise and the the caviare as if no
adaptations of actions are taken now is just March of this year. There was
a map that if you went on the Web site you could find it just shows more extensive
coastal flooding than previous studies have shown. You can see Brisbane you can see
the lagoon you can see lower reaches of the city this was by the end of the century
this is Pacific Institute. Study that was. Funded by three state agencies
Excuse me Bill but so is the the dark blue sea level rise as scenario is that
flooding the Brisbane village and the buildings behind it it's flooding yes it's
over coming beyond the lagoon and in the whole southern reaches. Easterly reaches
of the city as well as the northwest portion of the balance but of course this is
if no adapt ations are taken and it's for the end of the century projection of
a one point four metre sea level rise OK Thank you. So that's
a big caviar and it caused me to look at the definition of adaptations in the
dictionary and that's something that has changed or changes so as to become
suitable to a new or special use or situation and
a change in behavior an individual group an adjustment to
a new or modified dictionary says cultural surroundings I suggested maybe
environmental surroundings would be more appropriate in this issue. So what we're
doing is. The world's five hundred million vehicles released four hundred billion
tons of C O two premier twenty percent of the manmade C O two comes from cars and
the U.S.
Produces twenty five percent of global emissions. Where's our twenty five percent
of the worldwide emissions come from just as part of it the average American it
emits about twenty tons of carbon dioxide a year and if you drive
a car that gets twenty miles a gallon the average is twenty one
a pound of C O T comes out the tailpipe for every mile you drive. As part of the
presentation on the science of this it's as
a rule of thumb it's interesting to consider that each doubling of C O two can be
expected to increase global temperature by two degrees Celsius. The potential C O
two crease increase how much is that unfair and I know I have that right on the
second part of the bottom of the slide. I'll explain that moment so with the
current trend C O two rises it two parts for million annually from three hundred
ninety parts per million to four hundred seventy by two thousand and fifty there's
been eighty parts per million I rise over the last century so it'll give you an
idea that we're accelerate we've been accelerating the rise in C O two. By twenty
one hundred and this is best met estimate there was in the interim government panel
of climate change report in two thousand and seven the temperature warming is one
point eight to four degrees Celsius which translates into three point two four or
seven point two Fahrenheit it's not quite two to one but
close. Some of the impacts include doubling the number of four to five
Category four to five hurricanes. Deaths of twenty five and then it will double in
the next twenty five years to three hundred thousand per year attributable to
global warming and
a million species could go extinct by two thousand and fifty is only about one
point six million currently known species so that's that's quite
a chunk of the species that's twenty fifty. Other impacts
that with a two degree Celsius rise or
a three point six Fahrenheit all coral reefs are at risk of bleaching and you know
that means for ocean habitats and two to three Celsius coastal flooding displaces
seven seventy to two hundred fifty million people and half
a million according to that. Earlier study the Pacific Institute would be
Californians So how urgent is this situation many scientists believe that
a C O two level for fifty parts million represents
a tipping point beyond which no amount of intervention can prevent
a catastrophe. Currently about three hundred ninety parts for Million we are
currently at three about three ninety parts per million and increasing it as I said
before to two parts per million per year so I I estimate that about thirty five
years out which is not too far beyond the outer reach of the horizon of the general
plan update and if those increases in C O two levels continue those annual
increases continue to rise it may be less years and that.
Already as I mentioned in the staff report Tom Friedman told a kind of
a little joke at the at the a bad guy presentation he made about
a month ago in which he said that in talking Al Gore that Mr Gore
may be owed Americans an apology for underestimating the impacts from global
warming and his book Inconvenient Truth and indeed all the reports coming out since
the I.P.C.C.
Report are increasingly showing that it was inadequate and that it didn't really
address the feedback loops that are possible that can accelerate glacial melt and
lead to faster rise in sea levels and as recently as the two thousand and
seven summer Arctic ice retreat is larger than any of the nineteen I.P.C.C.
Models predicted. Feedback loops like the bedo effect
dark vs light surfaces ice versus land reflectivity ocean acidification.
The absorption of C O two by the ocean and permafrost and callous right. Defrosting
and methane release these are feedback loops that science is always already saying
that the two thousand and seven report underestimated the potential impacts and
there's been observations of the non-linear glacial disintegration process that's
going on since seventy nine now satellite images showed melt ponds in the Antarctic
and the Arctic and in Greenland and Sciences scientists have been
stunned literally stunned at the rate at which lake formations are happening on top
of the top the ice shelves. Even James Hansen likes to refer to and obeyed Oh flip
which could be the trigger mechanism for anomaly or ice sheets on when enough ice
sheet disintegrates and you lose the white surface and allow for more dark surface
to absorb more heat you get
a more rapid glaciation of the polls. I've gone back to the
future here stepping back and realize that in that dead perhaps the geological
sciences I have more to say about the future by looking at the past and geology has
again if I had five mast extensions in the past according to the fossil record and
it a den of five by the boundaries between
a father in the fossil record. And they demonstrate the change in the rate and
breath the species dying over time there's been five mass extinctions that have
been many smaller extinctions but the five mass extinctions show here indicate Kate
the they're the extinction rate percentage of families of plants and animals in the
case of the Permian extinction it was
a ninety percent species extinction. Granted that was a quite
a while ago however of the five extinctions one ng and one of the
extinctions had been proven to be by the meteor impact. That because they found
a meteor and crater off the Yucatan that became the dominant theory and impact
science. Despite the claims and media hype to the contrary ever since that
is covered by the Alvarez team from Berkeley. Scientists have been calling the
earth trying to explain trying to prove that the other four extinctions were caused
by meteor impact so what did cause the other mass extinctions since for twenty
years they haven't been able to find proof of other meteor impacts that could cause
those extensions and what the geologist and climatologists are in Cleese
increasingly. Zeroing in on is that C O two is the really the
trigger mechanism for. Rapid climate changes.
There's. The ice sheets that were in Greenland that were were drilled extensively
two miles in depth revealing
a couple hundred thousand years of climate history and by the isotopes in the ice
they can determine how much carbon dioxide existed in that rather short period of
two hundred thousand years which according to these geologist is just
a drop in the bucket it's just like yesterday but nevertheless they were able to
determine the level of C O two in the climate for the last two hundred thousand
years and interesting Lee this is been corroborated by more recent scientific
methods of the stomata in the leafs of plants that are in the fossilized
record so if there's
a lot of C O two in the environment the system in the plants are either open or
closed. And from the fossil record it corroborates the ice core studies. So
the driver extent of these extinction seems to be high carbon dioxide levels and
certainly C O two coincides with mass extinctions flood basalts or volcanic flows
are also coincide with the mass extinctions and are the likely source of the C O
two in the past so there's
a disturbing new theory that's coming out of the University of Seattle Washington
earth sciences department there that is the warming occurs the freshwater melt of
the glaciers interrupts the ocean currents triggering an Oxic condition or an
oxygen deprived ocean and allows the proliferation of sulfur bacteria that can
produce great quantities of hydrogen sulfide So these are an aerobics bacteria and
a robotic correct I think your slides as
a robotic prime sorry. And Oxic condition I think right but then deep water
you're right. So as the options in level drops in the water
you just interfere with what's called the camel climb which is this balance between
the deeper and less oxygenated water in the surface water that's oxygenated and
this is coming from a a scientist by name or Peter Ward that's with
a group from the University of Washington and Seattle. And.
It eventually leads to what is called
a can field ocean and this is named after the geologist that discovered in the
distant past even before the rise of animals they were chemically and biologically
differ the ocean was chemically biologically different it was highly toxic and it
was saturated with hydrogen sulfide. And another ocean chemist
by the name of Lee comp has said he's from Penn State he said there were great
numbers of sulfur bacteria near the end of the Permian. And the hydrogen sulfide
they produce was involved in the mass extinctions and at the horrific result would
be great bubbles of highly poisonous gases rising into the atmosphere and this I
won't bother to read this but this is kind of a graphic description of what
a Canfield ocean would look like and it's it's it's it's an earthly.
It's like it's another planet appears that this switch that can trigger rapid
climate change is
a disruption of the North Atlantic warm current. And there is some evidence as of
two thousand and six against it's it's not corroborated sufficiently but some
evidence showing that the current is being interfered with the North Atlantic
Current. So
a summary of this new hypothesis about. Where global warming takes
the Earth is that
a sudden rise an increase and it doesn't have to be from flood basalts it can
become from any C O two source and methane and it results in warming effects
the warming effects the ocean circulation it disrupts the position of the conveyor
currents water water oxygen levels drop that stimulates the growth back to bacteria
that produce toxic amounts of hydrogen sulfide hydrogen sulfide gases rise into the
atmosphere and break down the ozone layer and the high heat and hydrants sulfide
results in
a mass extinction and and this is the current hypotheses to explain the Permian and
extinction Yeah actually have sulfuric acid there I'm sorry yeah there was
a there was a time when
a scientist wouldn't we would grab on to that immediately I realize I don't want to
. So I'm checked and this goes back to the discussions in the
safety element to zero six when I presented some potentials and. Cons member
both fast that's if we do nothing and as I said even that Pacific Institute study
is if no adaption actions are taken but I think it's useful to steer at the worst
case scenario in order to. Indicate how urgent the
situation where and really is and unchecked by twenty one hundred emissions would
result in
a warming of four degrees remember only took two degrees Celcius to bleach the.
Ocean corals and begin other changes that we'd not like to see.
Good news is despite all this bad news ovoid insisted possible.
If it we were to cut greenhouse gas gas emissions by seventy percent by the end of
the century it would limit the increase to about that two degrees Celsius sea level
rise from thermal expansion alone would not go to eight point seven inches it would
be five point five we'd lose only
a quarter of the Arctic summarize and change to precipitation would cut in half
and in the Southwest would be less dry given the threat there of mega droughts and
climate could be stabilised by the end of the century but this is urgent because by
the end of this century C O two levels at the rate we're going could approach
a thousand parts per million and the effect would be as Peter Ward the
professor of biology on earth science that I got some of this information from. The
effect would be earth changing conceivably bring about it
a great mass extinction the greatest death of humans in all history.
I was came across this quote by Martin Luther King it really kind of expresses the
situation that we're in although as applied to
a different issue for him it's we're kind of faced the fact that
tomorrow is today and there's
a fierce urgency of now in this unfolding conundrum of life in history there is
such
a thing as being too late so that procrastination is still the thief of time. And
then just one other quote and this is from. A publication called Planet code red
that came out last year that I know Dr Miller is read and and he seemed at the
time. Quite concerned that this plan I could read report was very
disturbing and indeed it was however in it also expresses reason for hope and that
we've been able to rise to the challenge in earlier times when we had strong and
visionary government intervention and when the whole population contributed because
they understood the urgency of the task and saw that their neighbors were prepared
to do the same so what I've been doing since the two thousand and six safety
element I kind of took
a overall view on this if you go back to ninety two. Sixteen years ago.
We had the U.N.
Framework Convention on Climate Change nothing much happened until ninety seven the
cuatro protocol. And then still given the information that was
coming out then it took until two until the United States through the E.P.A.
Acknowledged that man's activities were involved in the global warming and then
from ninety by nine by zero six California showing leadership had adopted the
Global Warming Solutions Act A.B.
Thirty two. And other highlights with the Supreme Court E.P.A.
Decision on C O two the attorney general California settled
a sprog case with San Bernardino County over their general plan and the it's
adequacy of Climate Action Plan type of. Inclusion
Al Gore won the Nobel Prize with the I.P.C.C. . Oh seven the U.S.
Adopts climate security and energy independent X.
And last year the governor signs a B S B three seventy five so all of
a sudden more. We're starting to see of
a better faster response than we were seeing for the first half of this last
sixteen years. Just as illustration since we kicked off the general plan
update on the left hand side the things that we've been doing over these years and
on the right hand side what was happening kind of in the larger world of global
warming Albo came out Al Gore came out with this book Inconvenient Truth in zero
six we were finished up with the P.R.I.
Survey of the citizenry on the general plan and then as you see we're going through
updating the various elements of the general plan until we get to the housing
element which where we're coming to tonight hopefully we completed draft of the
general plan by the end of the summer and a wait and an E.
I R for the balance to also be used as the I.R.
When the general plan update thereby saving the city considerable expanse of the
duplicative environmental review. On the federal and state response to
global warming in the way of the legislation which starts to have an impact on
local municipalities. As I mentioned the
energy independence Security Act of two thousand and seven just in two thousand and
seven December two thousand and seven the new CAFE standard by Congress was thirty
five miles per gallon just the other week the Obama administration adopted thirty
nine mpg for cars and trucks thirty for cars and thirty for light trucks by twenty
sixteen that was just May nineteenth. But will those CAFE and fuel standards
be enough. Despite the stringent more stringent standards there
will still exceed target levels for stabilising the climate because of the growth
in vehicle miles traveled the Department of Energy forecasts
a forty eight percent increase in driving between two thousand and five and twenty
thirty outpacing even the twenty three percent projected growth in population. And
just to stabilize greenhouse gas concentration at the tipping point the arbitrary
somewhat tipping point for fifty and hold that temperature increase to Greece
Celsius would have to peak around two thousand and fifteen and decline and decline
further thirty or forty percent below the nine hundred ninety levels by two
thousand and fifty so the peak of increasing greenhouse gases within six years
the emissions come from these various sectors of the Qana me here's the breakdown
with transportation representing the biggest share forty one percent we've got it's
a three part program in terms of part problem in terms of. Greenhouse gases it's
a view economy and that's what the CAFE standards address the carbon content in the
fuel which is also being addressed by federal government regulation California
regulations and then the amount of vehicles miles travelled the
growth in figure vehicle miles traveled is is. Phenomenal it's three
times faster than the population and two times faster than the vehicle
registrations. And studies show that thirty six percent of that D.M.T.
Growth can be excluded plane by increasing trip lengths. Seventeen percent by mode
shifts to the auto away from public transportation and seventeen percent from
a decline in carpooling So we seem to be going in the opposite direction from where
we need to be going and only thirteen percent can be explained by the population
growth. So it's largely the D.M.T.
Growth is largely
a result of our land use pattern of development since the end of World War two the
last sixty years we've been pushing housing farther and farther away from the
center of things and it's
a large part of the explanation of why we have this increasing the ickle miles
traveled. Land is being consumed at three times faster than population growth.
To give an idea of that site selection and context are important factors and urban
site close to an employment center with twenty six thousand residents has fifty
three percent of the missions are coming from mobile sources and
a more remote site at the edge of the. Urban areas suburban or rural
a site with twenty thousand residents eighty five percent of those emissions are
from
a mobile emissions so the further you push people out from the center more driving
they do to get their jobs. And it's largely
a home commute trip although we're doing
a lot of other driving apparently in order to generate that kind of growth in
vehicle miles traveled. So there's two peach piece major pieces of legislation to
deal with this issue A.B.
Thirty two is is the kind of the framing legislation that set these targets for one
thousand nine hundred nine hundred ninety levels by two thousand and twenty the
state estimated there for four hundred million metric tons of. Greenhouse gas
emissions in two thousand and seven and the goal is to be eighty seven eighty
percent below that nine hundred ninety level by two thousand and fifty. A.B.
Thirty two grants the car by the California Air Resources Board brought authority
over greenhouse gas emissions and it requires participation in programs to reduce
greenhouse gas emissions. A.B.
Thirty two cent essentially sets the stage for subsequent legislation and that
subsequent legislation is S.B.
Three seventy five and attempts to deal with the missions of cars and light trucks
. Three seventy five authored by Steinberg the two thousand and eight legislation
provides a means to achieve A.B.
Thirty two goal goals as far as cars and light trucks are concerned and it builds
on the existing regional transportation process by integrating land use and
transportation planning to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Is three
goals regional transportation planning process to achieve the A.B.
Thirty two goals sequence streamlining and coordination of the regional housing
needs assessment process the next time you do the housing element and the regional
housing needs assessment process it will be folded into this larger goals of this S
B three seventy five I so that it's coordinated with regional transportation
planning in the Bay Area the automobiles and light trucks represent about twenty
six percent of our greenhouse gas emissions inventory. And the.
While we're passing they're considering in passing legislation about this Meanwhile
the C O two emissions continue to grow C O two and the rest of the greenhouse gas
emissions. And. I mean it seems like
we're not quite halfway through the presentation yet and I know we have people that
came to the meeting tonight to testify are we. Do we have to meet that we're going
to actually be able to take testimony from members of the public tonight I just it
just seems to me like this presentation may go on for most of the meeting Well
there's actually two parts to the presentation it concludes the the
the set up to the housing element and then. There's
a second part on the housing element so right so I guess my way out so maybe is are
we going to get
a sponsor Viagra's tax and your bar we have My question is are we going to have
a chance to receive public testimony tonight I think what time is it now I think we
would think you know six Yeah you're at ten thirty right and so we've been at this
for. A little over half an hour or half we're not even halfway done with the
presentation hunger I just decided of I just want to bring that up because I know
that some people came to testify tonight and I want to get an idea of whether or
not or at what time they'd be able to make comments Michael let me find out how
long this part of your present Taishan is going to take I think it's probably
another five minutes with OK then continue please and then and the second part is
on the housing element this is the update to the general plan the legislate
legislation that the council needs to understand as part of the housing element
alternatives of what you do in the housing and that is directly related to reducing
vehicle miles traveled OK please continue would video five million though I'd
actually like to get an answer to the question when the public might be heard from
to and I call I soon as he's finished taking make the second part of his comments
and we would have ample time for public to know that it would be
a case we actually have to get the full presentation. To do it so he's looking at
times pacifically like thirty minutes or forty minutes brought probably the whole
of. The first part is that it is
a half hour in the same. Part of the half hour so at but the first part is at the
end of the first part of the council would would this decide if the public is
interested in making comments or on this part of the presentation this is largely
informative of the legislation that has passed since we last talked about the
general plan update and in order to write the general plan. The staff is going to
need to read from the council and that direction should be based on understanding
what the legislative response to global warming is and how that is related to the
pattern of development which is represented in the housing element. OK so
I'm trying to answer the numbers the public came I'm sorry I can't seem to get that
from staff and the mayor doesn't seem to be interested in either my apologies. OK
please continue and I understand then you you need about at least one hour my quick
rate but it's broken into two half hour segments and so we can take after the first
thirty minutes we can take public input yes and even if there are Council questions
on the information they've received to that point so forth and the housing element
portion of that while it has more hands on work at the end of the council would be
doing in terms of the policy program review and the selection of alternative sites
for housing. Let's be mindful of the need for people to make public and thank God
So we have these two pieces of legislation three seventy five being the more
focused one trying to coordinate regional transportation and land use this has
implications I think in the future of local government planning control over local
government planning in other words if these targets for three seventy five are not
met it's you can almost read between the lines on these policy documents from the
regional agencies that are responsible for implementing three seventy five that if
we don't meet greenhouse gas target reductions the the the consequences there are
are so severe that I think the state will will take
a larger role and local land use planning. So three seventy five the science of the
responsibilities to develop these. Sustainable Communities strategy that is
a set that is the core of what A.B.
Three seventy five is all about and it requires
a bag and it's just not an either or
a bag forecast it's really trying to integrate regional transportation planning
with the land use planning that local jurisdictions do and where this is probably
going to be felt the most is in transportation funding so. It is sustainable
communities strategy is in effect
a land use plan ordinated with transportation that
a bag and the three other regional agencies will be involved in developing and
because it's part of the reason transportation plan it's required to be eternally
considered internally consistent by federal law and this includes to financially
constrain transportation investment package so that's where it's going to hit home
with with local government is in the funding of transportation mass transportation
efforts. In local planning
it also provides some sequel relief for housing
a mixed use development and it's as I mentioned before coordinated with it will be
in the future coordinated with the regional housing needs assessment it will be
synchronized with the preparation of the R T P which is on
a four year cycle most like now the rain it will be on an eight year cycle so it
will it will match those two four year regional transportation planning cycles and
the bill essentially asserts that without improved land use transportation policy
California will not be able to achieve the goals of A.B.
Thirty two. So by summary transportation section sector emissions are only part of
the problem but
a very important part significant portion of missions are attributable to the
increase in vehicle miles traveled vehicle miles traveled are greatly influenced by
the pattern and mix of land uses So that's your public enemy number one in land use
planning and greenhouse gas emissions is vehicle miles traveled. So if we
don't achieve the A.B.
Thirty two goals as I mentioned I think there will be more state intervention and
locally Atlanta is planning let's hope we don't create the six math mass extinction
. So with that. I will
skip this this. Part and. Get to the
conclusion of this half in the interest of moving things along so wristbands
response so far has been the adoption of the green house building ordinance
conditioning new development to incorporate renewable energy production. Policy
statements regarding the development of that the bay land should be energy neutral
Well what more can we do. And
a key choice will be whether to consider in the general plan in this in writing the
general plan in drafting the text of the general plan and describing what it is
that is the city as expressed through the council's direction to staff. Whether we
consider or we encourage. Certain types of development
and the evidence on on land use in driving shows that compact higher density
development will reduce the need to drive between twenty to forty percent as
compared to development at the outer fringes and it's realistic to assume
a thirty percent cut in vehicle miles traveled is possible with compact Smart
Growth Development. So in order to create
a sustainable general plan that needs to be taken into consideration and at this
point I would pause before going into the housing element to see if the council has
any questions or if the council cares to open it up to any public comments about
what they've heard so far. If you don't have any question he can kind of going to
element it's
a very educational presentation Bill I think it can an eye opener to what's really
going on. I don't have any specific questions maybe perhaps public as
excellent. Contents are fabulous appreciated I know
a lot of hard work vented this and I'm grateful that you've done this it may have
been it more than you wanted to I can mail it out I'm sorry but no problem you know
it's great I believe I'm going to learn has come to.
Thank you Will try to be brief. I just wanted to raise one point
and before that I do want to thank. You development director for reading all these
things to our attention. I hope we respond collectively as
a national international community at this point actually I'm not for about the
mystic. Especially if you look at what's happening in Congress right now.
But what I want to raise is just
a little different interpretation of the data Mr Mann and I think that.
It does lead to different policy and facilities and what I would like to do with
your permission. Is to distribute this city clerk would I have
a. Pie chart graph here. Nuff member for that enough
copies for the council. This comes from the California Air Resources Board
and what I wanted to raise was just an issue about the statement in the staff
report that says. The new state legislation focuses on the transportation sector of
the economy which constitutes the most of any sector greenhouse gas
emissions. And what I want to point out is that on
a national basis transportation is about one third of the greenhouse gas emission
source but buildings are actually forty eight to fifty percent. And what you can do
with this data from the California Air Resources Board is put together those things
which are related to buildings and if you add industrial and commercial and
residential and electrical generation which is almost all for the operation of
buildings. You get
a much higher percentage than you get from transportation. Now I certainly agree
that transportation is a big problem but buildings are even
a bigger problem. And we shouldn't forget that in our policy determination now what
I did on this little graph was to look under the industrial You can break it down
by different categories and refineries are eight percent of electrical I know of
the industrial amount so I figured I will. Take that from the fifty's the
percent would still these forty four percent is essentially coming from from
buildings. So what that means is that not only do we have to deal with the issue of
how do you cut down driving and so forth but also how do you cut down all the
greenhouse gas emissions that come from the building and construction and the
operation of buildings and so I really agree with the general thrust of the
presentation but I think we don't want to lose sight of the fact that we have more
control in Brisbane over what happens in buildings than we do over the general
transportation. OK thank you very much
a great pointer Thank you. Anybody else for this are both Johnson.
And pretty fast. I want to say how much I appreciate that you
requested the presentation that the plan director made and all that he included in
it I in referring back to what he said he mentioned that the cars and light
trucks in two thousand and seven only created about twenty six percent of the
greenhouse gases in the Bay Area and I guess you know I've been hearing about this
since. Oh by the one nine hundred ninety about smart growth and trance that
oriented design and I always thought it was a good idea I think is
a good idea to develop near the center I think it's
a good idea to have this conversation in Brentwood and in Fremont and all the areas
that are further out as well I would say just as an individual doesn't want to give
up their integrity. In order to achieve another goal I think this town shouldn't
give up its integrity its community character in order to achieve these goals I
think there are other ways I think that Ray Miller pointed out that we have
a lot more control over buildings than we do over transportation and whether people
choose to live one place or another because no matter what we do the average price
of
a house here is going to be extremely high and if somebody has three or four children
needs that bigger house is going to have
a hard time affording it on what most people make for their wage and for their
household and while I support the goals that that I know that is what
director prince wants to achieve I have many concerns and there's
a lot of ways to achieve thing I think the city should think about never buying
another vaguer vehicle that isn't
a hybrid from now on for any department in another words why not make every
action that you can take be an action that's consistent with the goal of lowering
greenhouse gases that I think is very important I think that I don't want to give
up our character I think that when you have people put in
a very dense environment you have results of maybe you don't want to have in terms
of human behavior it's like if you're going to if you're going to say let's have
dense housing which I know we must in the future to
a certain extent but in Brisbane I think you have to keep in. Mind the context
within you. And it is going to operate I think there. Should be standards for
housing standards that require there to be common space space where people can talk
to each other space where children can play so if you're going to build you know
you look at some times of what people build and there isn't any common space you
know there's there's no relief in a sense for
a very urban and harsh environment and I think that it's people need housing and
I'm not trying to deprive them but I think if we're if you're making the rules then
make the rules so that there are standards that people must comply with and I think
when you're doing things like taking the edges of Crocker Park which I tried to
find a map that was referred to in
a staff report and I never could find it on the web that shows where they're
talking about I think you take into account the commercial sector and the existing
residential sector and how making those edges into dense
housing would affect everybody that's already around them and whether you want to
change roads once I know there was
a suggestion to reroute all traffic in order to it to get some units on that
land owned by Stirrers. So that you'd send all the traffic in front of the people
on Sat and San Francisco street and I think those kind of ideas are kind of ill
conceived but I would ask you to study them and and think about not just what
you're trying to do now but about all the impacts so that we wouldn't create
problems that we didn't anticipate could thank you thank you very much appreciate
that. And don't.
Thank you madam mayor and council members. Friday I was an A in environmental
work group working group where they were talking about all the the. Things before
the Senate and state and the assembly and. Quite
a few of the so-called global warming issues they do not recommend
and they also told us
a lot about. Things that are in one and two year
plans at the State Plant. Legislature
Anyway the bottom line was that the cap and trade legislation is
a farce because it still allows people to continue to produce toxic.
Materials in environments and I'm really concerned about when we start to shift
to put housing in areas where people where that were former
industrial areas because those toxins are still there. In addition seems to
me that
a lot of the C O two comes from goods movement from the transportation of of our
goods in diesel trucks for which diesel has
a lower standard than. Gasoline standard so our cars you know
interestingly enough as onerous and terrible as it is to put that twelve I thought
it was twelve pounds of carbon dioxide per gallon. Anyway.
It takes. By putting
a lot of housing around where all the trucks are going to be passing We're going to
continue to have the problems that we're having with health and asthma and things
like that and that because we have
a rail yard because we have the opportunity to have better goods movement with an
electrified rail line I think we had think more positively about
the potential uses here in Brisbane than three or four hundred unit
requirement for. Housing and then the last thing I wanted to say what
was alarming on that is that we've consumed land three times faster than before and
it's that loss of land that's going to put us in
a lurch when we don't have any land to to provide our own food and sustenance thank
you thank you very much.
But. There are no. Comments.
Just we take
a five minute break. Yeah
I'd like to call the meeting back to order. OK excuse me the
meeting is on now thank you Mr Penn thank you madam and members of Council thank
you. And. Many more. Pause for
a minute to get the big screen up and running again.
So just to brief you on the overall update of the housing element was last updated
in two thousand and two for the one thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand and
six cycle the new up date will go through two thousand and fourteen it should be at
least drafted by July first if not submitted to the state legislative changes to
housing law have taken place including the early ones I mentioned and several more
so not as big in scope is a B.
Two and three and S B three seventy five are new rain
a number of the councils where from last year and our participation in the regional
housing needs. Process is four hundred one units.
It's lower than the previous cycle and one of the key parts of this housing element
update is to demonstrate the financial feasibility to provide the affordable units
or adequate sites. The existing Howlett housing element is
made up of six chapters or sections discusses initially the purpose and
review of the previous elements so this is submitted to the states so in the review
of the previous element we indicate what was accomplished. It discusses community
cat character primarily the demographics from largely still relying on the two
thousand census with an update from what information we have their land
inventory in the rain A sites which is the primary discussion issue tonight and
then standard. Chapters include the housing constraints an analysis of the
governmental non-governmental constraints to the provision of housing meeting
housing needs and then the housing policies and programs which it be the last thing
that we would get to which is the policy and program matrix that you're familiar
with from the review of previous elements the general plan. The essential step
steps in the process is to review the existing element update it analyze the
inventory of land suitable for residential development and describe as I mentioned
the constraints to achieving the goals. Is
a couple of sections Circe straight from the government code I won't I won't read
them I know you have looked at this in the staff report and it's drawn from Section
six five five eight three of the government cold. Indicating what constitutes
a suitable site for residential development. In the process of looking at all the
residential part zone parcels in the city staff looked at vacancy sites zoned for
residential use existing zone for residential use they can side zone for non
residential use that would allow residential development or could allow residential
development residentially zone sites that are capable of being developed at
a higher density in other words they're underdeveloped at the present time or site
zoned for nonresidents use that can be redeveloped as necessary and result of
residential use this is
a matter of researching the city's land use all the parcels in the city primarily
residential ones but others too to see what the potential is to meet that for
a one number of the regional housing needs assessment. Again that government code
section indicates that. You provide an analysis demonstrating how the the existing
densities in your plan meet can accommodate the need and if you don't find that
then. Too if you are going to demonstrate the need by adding additional sites they
have to be zoned at least twenty units per acre That's according to state law and.
There's there's a number of there's
a lot of new information about where people are choosing to live I won't belabor it
but changing demographics of the US population obviously you know where the baby
boom and the aging of the. Average aging of the population housing preference
surveys provide information and sales data all indicating that Americans are
demanding more choice of where they locate this will be accelerated by the
demographic changes surveys show increasing preference for compact smart growth and
in two thousand and three according to one source for the first time in U.S.
History of the sales price per square foot for
a detached housing was higher than detached housing people actually prefer ing
attached housing condominium developments probably because they don't want to
shovel snow or mowed the lawn anymore. So these trends in housing is showing
that there's going to be
a greater demand for the smaller lot and attach housing as well and less emphasis
on the make mansions which I think is a good trend in the housing market. It's
a question of whether higher density is becoming an excess city after talking about
the global warming being driven by the vehicle miles traveled. Then detach sprawl
type development that's resulting in these increases needs to be addressed in local
plants. I'll skip this on density other than to say and I know you know
there's one comment
a quote that you've probably heard repeatedly over the past years if there's one
thing Americans hate more than sprawl it's density but then you know the other side
of that is would you prefer
a more global warming. When you think of density you think of lack of privacy
crowding monotony some of the things that have been even mentioned here tonight.
It's really him a lot of it is
a matter of design how you design the multifamily attached development to address
those issues of privacy crowding and monotony you obviously try and not to let that
happen. How skip the rest on the density I and get right
into more closely into the heart of the housing element and just want to mention
that the history of Brisbane is about affordable housing and this is
a quote out of one of the histories and I'm sure you're all familiar with it by
Lorraine Harriss about what it was like to come to Brisbane in one nine hundred
thirty and build their first house on Alvarado Street.
It's kind of what it looked like back then noticed a lot for sale
a hundred dollars on
a lot. More advertisements from the time another
quote from Dorothy rat off right out of Brisbane's history as is the great quote
about but it was still your shack it was your old tar paper it was your old boards
from the spirit of independence so the history of Brisbane is is largely about
affordable housing.
There's some new housing law as I mentioned that's been passed that the council
should be aware of and in in a set and taking
a look at the distribution of the additional regional housing need assessment
numbers. Mollen is probably the most significant. It requires
a more detailed inventory of the sites to accommodate the regional housing needs
assessment capacity and based on the minimum designated densities so that's where
that twenty units per acre is coming from and when we looked at the alternative
ways to achieve the before
a one regional housing needs assessment numbers we were we had this in mind the
other legislation pieces of legislation aren't that as significant or don't affect
the city's existing housing element for say. Floor is requires the utility
districts to give priority to affordable housing project water and sewer priority
to affordable housing project is
a new category of extremely low income as opposed to very low and low but
fifty percent of the very low can be considered to be extremely low so that
shouldn't be
a challenge to deal with. Is not regarding density bonuses not conflict with city
ordinances Council remember they adopted
a inclusionary housing ordinance and density bonus. Ordinance just
a few months back. Said C.D.O.
Requires that at least one zone allow emergency shelters for the homeless and also
transit transitional housing. That includes supportive housing it's occupied by low
income persons with disabilities aid substance abuse so forth. So
a summary of the new legal requirement for housing is that you must provide his own
were emergency shelters are allowed by right. And must also provide for
transitional housing as mentioned. We already know what the regional housing number
of process is about and that for
a line is the. Adopted number by the city council that's broken out the four A one
has broken out into very low low moderate and above moderate market rate units to
meet the total for
a one. Based on
a detailed land inventory you're supposed to demonstrate through the housing
element that the existing capacity can meet the arena or identify sufficient sites
of twenty units per acre to meet the Rayna. We looked at potential locations for
housing back in February of zero eight over
a year ago and the council looked at the sites as part of the land use sound and
update in the Callista's property the council voted to consider rezoning to
residential for two sites for the for the callous site and two sites adjacent to
the Cal Street site as
a California state retired teachers retirement system property next to the shopping
center they also consider rezoning of Sierra Point the council voted.
Not to support the Opus or the at the time diamond proposal for
a large amount of residential development to see your point but did have
a three two vote in favor of
a hotel condo depending on. What it looked like and environmental review that would
be necessary. They also you also looked at the Universal Paragon Corp base sure
property next to the fire station no residential and the Livingston peaking.
Voted three two against residential there. The. Land
inventory was done by the in compliance with the state law of the land inventory
was done by staff and we've looked at the zone capacity in this is where that first
large charge comes into play after analyzing the existing residential capacity we
found there is an existing zone capacity for three hundred fifty nine units which
fall short of the total for a one not by a lot but by
a margin but it's also farther short of the Affordable Care Act categories of
ninety one very low sixty six sixty six low and seventy seven moderate income need
so they're there for you start looking at sites at twenty units per acre that can
demonstrate that that the feasibility for the ninety one very low and and
sixty six low income those become the more problematic sites the fine to find and
identify and zone
a rezone if necessary so we develop three alternatives after combing through that
inventory this city's parcels of land. Zoned residential. And we
found
a shortage from the existing zoning so we looked at three alternative ways that you
might accomplish the four A one number one is to mix additional units within the
existing residential zones by
a couple of rather simple techniques of spanning the our two zone. Outside its
current boundaries
a block or two. In either side of it. To rezone up to
five now. Five trade commercial sites that would be two more than the council
looked at when they looked at the land use element in February of away or some
combination of of the two in which. The mix of the additional
expansion of the our two. That changes the density of the lot dimensions and
a bunch of small changes would be mixed with perhaps one or more resounds.
Of the trade commercial for instance one twenty five Valley which is the Cal stores
site to achieve the four A one regional housing need. All
three of the alternatives really would meet the number and actually exceed the four
A one we didn't try just to make it for a one in order to make
a housing element look like it's really encouraging housing we came up with
alternatives that go beyond the four zero one need but we're also looking at the
update of the general plan that projects out twenty five years so having some
additional capacity before the below of the above the minimum that the state would
like to see in the housing element. Would be realized in any one of these three
elements as well they would also satisfy the all of the affordable needs as well I
think the important thing to remember about all this is that it's
a theoretical numbers exercise in all the past cycles of housing element updates
that cities have done since this requirement was legislated there has been no
penalty for not achieving the number indeed for
a lot of communities like Brisbane the the it really depends on what the
market will do and that often times show it's
a much less housing production and these numbers imply and although
you could satisfy some of this need by working cooperatively with
nonprofit housing agencies as the city has done in the past. You have to
make the case to the state about the feasibility of these theoretical numbers
and there's
a couple of keys to the feasibility one is the twenty units per acre density that I
mentioned another is if you were to say this many units might be provided
by project with nonprofit housing developers the state would probably want to see
some evidence that past experience shows that you would generate those numbers so
past experience while the city has worked cooperatively with housing for humanity
and done some really exceptional affordable projects in the city. It would
be unlikely to convince the state that you could do it primarily through working
with non-profits although. Staff will certainly.
Make any arguments that the council wants to put forth and how
those numbers are satisfied with the state in order to convince the state housing
reviewers that the housing element plan is feasible to achieve the numbers
so that's that's essentially the problem here and these alternatives are not meant
to be exclusive. Other alternatives are possible.
You can maximize the housing potential by using all of the alternative
a plus the five parcels and that would get you
a number even larger than any of these three alternatives suggest. The
justification for some of this alternative is to provide greater potential housing
capacity to address possible employment growth it's not exclusive that additional
housing wouldn't. Be search something that would be considered and on the balance
and indeed you have two letters from.
Interest groups in encouraging you to do further study of the possibility of
housing in the balance this number for
a one. In debt that we came up with through this this this rain or process with the
twenty other jurisdictions in the county of San Mateo. To the degree that included
the kind of I employ meant potential that would be possible in the bay lands. It's
up as we talked about when we're talking about the. Density standards in the
general plan and that's part of the formula that generates the Rayna numbers
employment future employment generation so. To some extent
you're you you might satisfy some of the employment growth related to
a bail and specific plan project approval with this although it's not exclusive
it's not that this necessarily. Removes the need for more housing that might be
generated in the with the Bay Land specific plan and you'll have to kind of wait to
see the I.R.
Results on that specific plan hopefully by the end of this year some time meanwhile
we do have the deadline on the housing element I know there's been some question
raised in the city attorney is here about the possible possibility of continuing
the direction of the housing elements. Till that he is available so the council has
a lot to chew on with this presentation and
a lot to go through and the last part as I mentioned early earlier would be to go
through the proper goals policies and programs matrix which would be kind of the
last part of this overall updated the housing element process and with that I
conclude presentation and. Thank taken questions can you turn your lights on please
thanks if you look all right I would just like to make
a comment good presentation Bill on. And this is.
A general comment I think. Coming from me.
If we're required to do four hundred one under regional needs housing assessment
then. I don't feel the need to provide any more than that from we're
doing the housing element. Which is updated every five years anyway and
chances of four hundred one units being built in that five years span probably
highly unlikely. So given those
alternatives while they're interesting they certainly would require a heck of
a lot more study then making the decision you know
a couple weeks from now to say OK this is our housing element that could have the
potential I think Clara Johnson and stated change the character of Brisbane and I'm
not ready to go there especially without
a whole lot of public employees. You know and that's. I just don't think that
that's
a good idea I know we're trying to reach these numbers I think are low income housing
proportion is an extremely high proportional amount maybe some of the
other jurisdictions and we had brought this up before like how many very low income
units is Hillsborough providing and after ten and some of these more fluent
communities you know which is probably. You know
and then we're doing over thirty percent of this four hundred one units you know.
It was that year if I could respond have did review the three of the housing
elements that are currently out cemetery County including Hillsborough interesting
Lee enough and we took
a cue from the Hillsborough housing element that we read housing element the
Hillsborough housing element is taking
a lot of credit for affordability especially in the low income areas and very low
from second whiling it is and what we found through looking at that in from our own
surveys and it if you'll notice in the alternative day is made up
entirely within. I believe if I get this right within the existing
zoning that Brisbane has but a series of small changes including taking credit for
a second well in units that are potential on all the residentially zone parcels. Is
one alternative that we've tried to framework for the council so that you could you
could you know in effect fit those those additional units in all over the central
Brisbane area without doing these larger rezone Stuart chief that that itself is
going to have some effect on the character of President as he indicated when he was
here for the last Planning Commission meeting on an item of
a neighbor who is building a. An apartment
a. Family Project next door to him they would suffer some impact
from the comings and goings of more cars and gas emissions and noise and so forth
associated with that density so the there are consequences of whichever way you try
to massage that additional density we just try to provide the council different
ways but you're in
a lot of very interesting Bill I mean that's for sure but like I said it would to
me it would require a heck of
a lot more study than saying OK let's choose option is. A B. Or C.
You know or variation of those and you know quite frankly I'm I'm not ready to do
this like in two weeks from now you know to you know without a whole heck of
a lot of further study because we don't know what the impacts are going to be we
already know parking sucks in Brisbane and by doing all the secondary dwelling in
it which is fine and dandy will exacerbate that even you know even more and I
think that's the reason that we haven't done that in the past so you know I've
personally I'm not ready to make that decision without a whole heck of
a lot of study on what this exactly is going to mean I mean the earlier
presentation about greenhouse gases and stuff like that you know it was you know
probably ten point you know she everybody trying to get out of town at once you
know we put in X.
Number of secondary units that you know all of sudden you know just trying to get
out of Brisbane is going to be. Quite an ordeal and how much are we going to add to
the greenhouse gases with all those stop signs and stuff like that I mean those are
things that I think should be studied. Also you know I think the transportation
corridors probably. Make
a more interesting aspect and then trying to do these things to satisfy
all the state or regional needs housing assessment things that really aren't
looking I don't think they're looking holistically I don't they're just looking at
how many houses can we pack so here's your proportion call me here is your
proportion in Brisbane Daly City all the cities in the Bay Area and they're not
real numbers. And so I'm very reluctant to say let's do five hundred
fifty to our housing element you know if our requirement is four hundred one maybe
you should do four hundred one. You know or you know our variation to how we're
going to look at it I mean certainly I have some ideas. You hit on here but.
Families you know it's going to require a heck of
a lot more study than then I'm willing to make
a decision by July first I guess Which segues into the question to the city
attorney is can we get an extension on this for you making
a decision no I was surprised this afternoon to research this project and I found
the vision the state code you can not get an extension of time for housing element
and lesser and incorporated city or newly formed counties OK so what is this
sanction if you early it doesn't specify in the code section I looked at I didn't
do extensive research on it but. My first thought would be that if there's any
problem. Project proposal or. Approval or somebody is
dissatisfied with an approval for them opportunity to challenge on the basis that
it's an inconsistent or an incomplete element of the general plan. I think I have
a question if you do include aliments in your general plan it doesn't mean that you
actually have to build that that one I understand that to be the case you can put
anything in there but nobody can as it is to make you do it might not clutter the
chair the last rain of cycle the city's number was four hundred twenty six.
You are absolutely correct that these numbers are way blown out of proportion and
the truth is that it's largely
a theoretical exercise the market is going to do with the market does regardless of
what the state demographers think your share of regional housing should be so to
some in some extent. You know all of the cities at least those with
consistent. Elements or housing elements like Brisbane has
a housing element that in two thousand and two was found consistent with state law
by the state and those four hundred twenty six units were theoretically
demonstrated. Upon because some of that land has been used over the past five seven
year cycle. Some of that capacity has been used it's now down to three fifty six
so it's
a matter of making up you know some of that lost capacity through the buildings
that have happened which was much less then. Then this theoretical exercise so
I don't know what to say. In some ways it's always seen. You know
that it can create a lot of public consternation but it seems to be
a little bit Shakespearean in the sense of much ado about nothing because it's just
a theoretical exercise and there's no penalty at the end of five years it's zero
basic goes right back to zero you know it's just an it's just an effort to
demonstrate to the state and the larger region that you would be willing to absorb
. You. Or fair share of the affordable housing needs should that level of
demand ever be there and it never is so I you know.
One I'm sorry one of the things that I serve on the back board and one of the
things that was appealing to cities for example in Marion County that there are so
adamant about not wanting to do any of that stuff was because. There is no
requirement to actually do it if you plan for it do you include it but it doesn't
mean you have to do it and I really don't see any problem but studying the
possibility. And you know that I really it's just you know we've got to make
a decision before July first on this and we scored in the city attorney but we
don't know what the sanctions would be if she if we were you know
a couple months late. Well given the state state through the chair I would say that
you know I. It would be good to deliver
a draft housing element to the state by that date and then they have
a period of time to review it but then the ball is in their court and really you
know any subsequent delay before it comes back and we bring it back to the Council
for an adoption hearing with environmental review. All the any delay beyond sending
them the draft is all on their. On their side and so. If you get
a letter from the state with you know. Where is your housing element Well your
reviewers are reviewing it we haven't got it back so there you know it is all been
laid off probably yeah they have
a limited number of years doing all the selling elements and the other part of it
honorable Miller also mentioned then you know it's the transportation is the talk
of the town but really it's
a building and there's so wrapped up in this transportation and the regional
planning of that I can see that they might turn to levy delaying all of that to
really concentrate on the transportation part it's going to good there'd be
a backlog Well Mary I would agree that three seventy five is now focusing on this
regional transportation and land use plan which isn't really how much meaning there
is to this particular arena cycle when that is now shifted gears to you know under
three seventy five to make the housing element an eight year cycle instead of
a five year cycle. It's now turned into an eight year cycle it was
a five year cycle but every cycle the state would end up giving you giving the
region an extra year or two to complete it because usually the state was late in
providing the initial numbers to begin with
a dangerous thing thing that our Wood Johnson armor Mehmet Miller and I know the
rest of the some of the people who are here on goal is to definitely do not mess up
the character of our town this is what we are. Our pride is our city the character
dismount an atmosphere that is stablished that is given. We're not going to
compromise that so I don't have any problem with studying the physicality I don't
mind looking at all of that I don't mind even going with this process right now to
meet the requirement I don't think we should have cause the city to get into
a sanction the budget situation this state is really messed up I don't think we
need to endanger our finance or it says to just you know of say let's test them
and see what they can do I think we should just go ahead do what we need to do but
automatically re are in charge automatically our citizens are the decision makers
so I like to suggest that what I'd like to suggest in got about twenty six minutes
yes twenty seven minutes left and most other council members have questions as to
take public input it clear that we're not going to make
a decision tonight. So if the council.
There's not have any question I would open it in public.
OK public I don't want Johnson please.
I appreciate it listening to your discussion and. And I'm glad that you're can
cerned as much as I am about the character of the of the community the comments I
wanted to make in addition to what I said before is that I know Pedro Gonzales he
and city council member at South San Francisco came and spoke to the Planning
Commission and I just would commend his comments today to the council regarding the
goals for the housing for the homeless and his group called that he's
a part of called Hope. And in relation to housing on the bail ends and I'm
only speaking for myself no other group as. I I think there are several reasons
why housing on the valence are is
a very bad idea among them are. Sea level rise and all the unknowns associated with
that long term unknown toxic exposure and I realize that
pathways to exposure on the valence are can be explained away but I you know I'd
say if you don't want your grandchild to grow up there then don't make anybody
else's grandchild up there because it is an urban environment there's Arsen
a good lead that they think they can you know get rid of they think they can do it
to get rid of everything but it's the unknowns to make it something that we might
which I don't believe should be done and we had
a gentleman who's has thirty years of experience with landfills and I know no one
is really thinking about putting housing on the landfill but he said no housing on
landfills which kind of surprised me because it surprised me because it was such an
unequivocal statement on his part but that was his belief and. He was the expert
and as far as size seismic reinforcement for homes I think if you're going to
provide housing that's adequate adequate should mean that it's safe and if it's
safe then it shouldn't be completely vulnerable to what is the likeliest besides
wildfire disaster that might occur here for is being we have
a number of older homes there wood framed their small in an earthquake as long as
they're attached their foundation they shouldn't really they should take it in and
not have too much of a problem with even
a seven point one earthquake but if they're not attached to their foundations which
many of these homes may not be or may not be adequately attached and this is not
a advertisement for my husband's business but it is real concern that I have that
the city might want to try harder to have educational programs to have programs
that encourage people to do their own. RE and reinforcing by having
a tool rental that's tried in other cities you can check with them see how it's
worked out for them you can. Think about if you could use your loan
MOND. In
a money from the redevelopment agency to provide long term loans loans are payable
when the property selves there are ways to help people carry out these repairs
which would mean that you would save
a lot of housing in the event of an earthquake also you have
a lot of soft story multiple unit housing. Buildings in this town and I
think that. Something needs to be done because in
a very severe earthquake you'd lose them and loss you could that there could be
loss of life and so I just wanted to make
a pitch that if you're going to deal with housing that you all should deal with
housing safety and issues that are
a part of how many housing units you're going to have left after the next
earthquake especially one that has its center here in Brisbane rather than in. Loma
Prieta. And I thank you very much I wanted to show you that on May nineteenth
a bag sent out a letter and a plan set to all jurisdictions who are members of
a bag which. Gives the plants that I have previously there's
a model resolution regarding the standard plan set that's been developed and I'll
get you a copy of this at the moment I don't have
a live by seventeen copies that I could make but I will and give it to Sherry thank
you very much thank you very much I appreciate that anybody else OK please.
Since time is limited I really am going to hold everybody to three minutes so.
Thank you Madam America and some members I think you need to take care in starting
to mix housing in Australia areas and I think that the safety really
needs to be looked at when we purchased our house which is really close to Crocker
Park we got
a document about an inch thick of all of the leaking underground storage tanks and
stuff and when we were working with Fed Ex That was saying that the Gilmore
location has in that leaking underground storage tank and so. Of the areas that
you're considering in Crocker Park I suggest that you really look at the
environmental concerns. Truck traffic which is now at
a high that that right there at Valley Drive is where all the trucks go
through some may be transporting hazardous materials there's an issue of
liquefaction that is old. Marsh that was not constructed
for housing the buildings themselves were never considered for housing so the
buildings that you're considering anywhere along Crocker Park are not adequate.
There's the sixty does. Simple sound limit that you allow in the commercial but you
don't allow in housing but now housing is kind of creeping in. Regarding the bay
lands I've asked before are you going to look at where housing would be in
relationship to the burners for the toxic burners and ground zero for accidents
from the tank farm. I would like to reiterate that
land use for the Bay lands regarding housing is no housing and it to consider it is
inconsistent with our general plan and. I also wonder
why Brookfield homes isn't among one of these it's we were talking with some
residents up at Northeast ridge and they're saying you know with the way the
economy is going it would seem that the seventy one units that they can still build
that they would come back with
a new proposal and it would seem that this is the opportune time to consider
the north or the Brookfield homes or Northeast ridge and put it down closer to land
not to denigrate any habitat and lastly.
How do I say this without sounding that it's really unfair to put all your low
income housing in one spot it's highly looked frowned upon Yes you need more
intensity but the way the city has gone about doing low income housing by assisting
owners by. The purchase of community housing on.
San Bruno at bay shore those are brilliant OK Thank you
those are brilliant things that we have that we have the ability to do without
changing our borders and putting people in unsafe situations Thank you great
comments and appreciate their. Anybody else please.
Thank you Terry O'Connell Brisbane resident. I'm on the port of San Bruno Mountain
Watch and I spoke with some of our board members today. And Sandra
a mountain watch recommends to the Brisbane City Council that the necessary changes
to the Brisbane out of housing element to meet state mandate take into account the
fragile apology and habitat assembled on mountain we recommend that only the
minimum amount of housing needs are met that we don't exceed them.
We'd like no increases in density or density density transfers to the upper
portions of Brisbane I.E.
The acres north of the sections of joy in Thomas Avenue as these are sensitive
happen after areas while housing is an important issue preserving the rare and
endangered small town is equally important. And that's the thoughts from San Bruno
Mountain members that I talked to and I was on
a personal note as Brisbane as jobs with these mega projects that we have in the
pipeline. Out of syrup point and here in the acre in. The.
Lands Thank you. Our rain and numbers are going to go up with that
and so I think we need to look at transportation needs before we get to that point
of adding the jobs are now to adding the housing. And I still think that
a senior project senior housing is what could work very well for us it would
address both the local needs for seniors in town and by
design since they're not working they should be low income or very low income
people and I think if we work with
a reputable not for profit builder we could come up with numbers that could address
senior housing and. These would be people that wouldn't need the transportation
or wouldn't have the same demands on the transportation. Because they aren't as
mobile as people going to work every day so that's my thoughts and I thank you for
your careful consideration thank you very much. If there is nobody OK two
more OK.
Just quickly I wonder if if these numbers are any meaning at all with all the
foreclosure houses out there. Thank you very much. Please.
Cliff one six eleven. Great conversation tonight.
Dealing with. Subject Matter this very very sensitive talking about when talking
about the character of the town you have to proceed with with great caution. As
a planning commissioner. Do you know one of my goals for working with updated
housing I want to use the world with my fellow commissioners and the staff to come
up with. The look at. The
little ability and singing ability of our community. You know
that the area that
a lot of people talk about in regards to the housing element that they have issues
with is the area right behind us. The warehouses that the front
are park and. You know that was that was. Something that we had a lot
a lot of discussion on you know our warehouses that are in the core of our downtown
appropriate uses especially when we want
a freight forwarder. And so. As
a commission we felt that uses that you would find in other downtown.
Driving downtown and those uses would be more appropriate. You know guards to
affordable housing. That's why I came to respect. As
a young man twenty years ago I couldn't find
a place to stay so by that I could afford
a house from Brisbane and though I could afford to live in it I could afford to buy
it actually had to rent out my house and live in the little cottage and in the
backyard until I had established myself
a little bit more but you know Brisbane has changed and I really feel that
a lot of those folks. That that you know are part of what Brisbane
great again squeezed out and for us to to to not look at
opportunities for affordable housing. I think is
a mistake because I think diversity is what is maybe bursting great and.
You know I can understand where people are coming from with density and you know
what elements that you know affordable housing my praying I mean these these
affordable units aren't on the projects there they're affordable because for
smaller and more sustainable so. That is that something
that I have
a lot of compassion for and I know that you do too you know that we make that
commitment you you did the. Four lousy ones not too long ago you don't have
units for these folks I mean what good is that is that weren't.
Even another thing that the that the Commission addressed for that the units that
border the park is public space and we felt you know your time is up
and
a few more minutes for us so that's OK All right any port you know how much more you
have about three more minutes three minutes on is that kind of is the Council's
desire it's ten nineteen and it's going to grandma got it so. Twenty five percent
public space and we're talking about the core of our downtown and the
core of our city having this twenty five percent additional public space I
think. Has
a great feature that could make our town better these you know really
looking at it this area isn't something new we had Fred can come out and we had the
workshops and you know really a lot of what is in
a staffer for work comes from the community his community generated. As you know
I'm
a very strong advocate of high school respect Now whether or not you know you take
part of this public space to make it
a high school that's for another nice discussion but. If this were
to evolve and become what could potentially be mixed use with this additional
public space it does provide an opportunity. Well perhaps very few opportunities
exist. So. I know my time is limited cut it short
here we don't have another night of discussion and I look forward to your comments
and what you have to say at the next minute Thank you very much for all the hard
work you do at planning commission be patient that OK.
Anybody else. Want Council discussion.
You know ninety minutes Yes I don't think that's really long enough for
a substantial discussion of myself. This is picked we should continue the
discussion to next meeting. I'm open so would need when would that be.
June fifteenth. What else do we have I mean agenda for that night nothing
or just some silly business. Yeah I think we're pretty clear on that even.
Yeah I think we can pretty much clear that. Give you maybe
a couple hours to wrestle with this. And maybe we can take some more public and put
it first and then have
a dialogue if you know at that point. OK.
So this neither shall continue not to go to staff report. You
know report. Today answer me and also remember May and I'm
hearing council matters. And well I just want to say I got reelected on
a bag called for and Hundred Years Naomi Partridge got reelected for
a laugh. So. Yes regional housing needs assessment come
from no Actually let me let me share something our county definitely is
actually is the only county that was able to ride on having
a bag do all the work and decide how many Which city what should have we worked it
at the county level there was
a committee that day work and I believe we were involved I was involved from city
as anybody you were you were going to some of the meetings right. The me here for
the Rainbow meetings that all the Community Development director
a community did council member Barnes was also right so that's why it happened.
Throughout the county. But. Is Dalton made up of what is yes the
genesis is that
a bag yes next time this comes around you're going to be very vociferous about.
Smaller say they should have it's out of order number unit actually just just for
it so the viewing public understands
a bag does not set the numbers and they come through
a bag they are really set through the formulas state at the State of the state
level so sometimes a bag gets
a bad rap on this. The body was all said and done in about four years or something
new state will dissolve completely and will be our own entity thing.
And camps. For
a communication number two. Now on the motion to adjourn Thanks I can
on paper I. Thank you.